With the popularity of Instagram soaring and every publication, corporation and charity/NGO group jumping on board, the notion of such feeds being run by individual photographers for brief ‘takeovers’ is pretty common. Still, while some outlets (like the New Yorker) pay for week-long takeovers, many others don’t.
This question generally points to larger questions in photography and the media - is mobile photography generally accepted as photography yet? How much are groups willing to pay for ‘likes’?
Post your rates (or lack thereof) below or at the submission form on this site.
Anonymous said: Does anyone know what Dorling Kindersley pay for stock photographs for use in Eyewitness Travel Guides? many thanks'
Any readers with specific experience with this question?
Pay - 0 (Stock Sale, 2014) [fine art photography]
Usage - 1 page, medium web size.
“They steal your work, remove the infringement and refuse to pay a licensing fee.”
photos of VIP and guests
Had to remind them that payment was due on the 30th day and the paid by credit card over the phone.
Speed of payment - 1 month
$200/assignment (Portraits, 2014)
Circulation - 5 million views a month
Complete loss of copyright…. sent me a onerous contract AFTER I shoot three portrait assignments in one morning totaling $600. The contract even mentioned I would have to make “publicity appearances” for BleacherReport.com if they wanted me to.
I refused to sign the contract and they decided NOT to use my photos. I did NOT get paid anything for my time.
I found out later that they offered this particular job to someone else before me at a lower rate, but they declined.
$800 half-day (Assignment, 2014)
Interior and exterior of assembly plant
Licensed for Editorial, Social Media and Press Releases. GM is granted a 30-day exclusive. All rights remain with the photographer.
After 60 days and no payment I contacted them only to find out they wanted a W9. They knew all along, that terms were 60 days, with referral to my attorney for non-payment, but waited until I reached out for the late payment to tell me they wanted a W9. Very unprofessional.
Speed of payment - 60 days, but….
Photographer keeps copyright, agency markets images exclusively for up to 7 years. You get 50% of sales commission.
Speed of payment - Over 1 year
1. You’re saying your work is not worth anything.
2. You’re saying that you are not worth anything.
3. You’re saying that whoever asks to be paid for the same work is, evidently, a thief.
4. You’re making those who rob you richer and stronger.
5. If you work for free now, the next time you’ll have to pay for the “privilege” of working.
Instead of working for free, use that time to learn something new and enjoy yourself.
You will be more prepared and more relaxed for the next time they offer you PAID WORK.
From Gabriel Ve on the Facebook group - Stop Working for Free
1125 AUD per day (Assignment work)
Food photography for cookbook
Client owns copyright forever, photographers have to sign a contract or no deal. No expenses covered, day rate has to include studio and kitchen. Files often required to be retouched and transferred to client at end of shooting day. If client is unhappy with images reshoots are requested at expense of creative team.
6-10 shots per day
Unattractive terms but reasonably fast payer.
Speed of payment (1 month)
500 MXN / 38 USD per image published (Stock sale)
Photographer preserves copyright.
Only paid when published in Proceso magazine. No paid when used in Proceso website nor when sold to third parties.
On front page rate goes up to 2000 MXN (152 USD)
No paid in internet
No expenses covered
Images sold through Procesofoto agency to other magazines are not paid to photographers
$150-$250 per assn (2013-2014)
Joint copyright, embargoed until published +1 day.
Expenses are added into the fee after discussion with the assigning editor or Photo Editor in charge. I have never had a disagreement over expenses but I also don’t ask them to buy me lunch.
Very good to work with. Rates are based on a potential 4 hour assignment including travel and they are agreeable to adjust the fees upward if the assignment goes over or has unexpected twists. Assignments are usually short on information but photo editors fill in the back story so you are prepared to deliver what they need. Sporting assignments are almost never happening where the assignment directs you and you are expected to solve for this. The only other negatives are they require you to file lots of photos for resale and you need to build site specific web galleries with wonky interface that experiences frequent problelms. This can add to your day and they don’t raise the rate for that unless you can convince them with specific details and proof of the problems experienced. The state is so big you don’t want to enter into a conversation of a day rate. Multiple assignments require multiple galleries and that’s one reason you want to maintain the per assignment rate. Company changes are planned for fall of 2014 and it’s unknown the impact on freelance work.
Follow up if an invoice isn’t paid in 3 weeks. Everything is paid out of state and if you don’t get a check, they misdirected the paperwork.
Speed of payment - 2 weeks or less
$1000/story plus exp. (Assignment work)
Standard embargo Conde Naste contract
8 pages, 9 images
Mileage - $.75/mile
great client all in all, no complaints
Speed of payment - 1 month
On PDN’s wall - these 3 highlight the reasons this site was started.
“Like any wiki, it will get more accurate and useful over time as more people submit.”
“I have submitted rates to them and I will keep on submitting. I also wish when I started shooting they had a website like this, because I made a lot of pricing mistakes due to lack of understanding the market.
I don’t think the prices they have listed are wrong, I just think the photographers that negotiate and know the market are able to get better rates. And those that don’t, get paid less. So if you have done a job for one of the publications listed and got a different rate, you should submit it.
Publications always try and get things for free. And is due to the lack of education that photographers pays are now so little. People don’t know what to charge, lowering the bar of what everyone’s photos should cost.”
"What they pay??? not enough, the idea of this site is great, but without the admin putting the work in, it quickly became irrelevant"
Editor’s note on the last - all submissions go straight to the spreadsheet which is viewable and downloadable here: http://bit.ly/wppsheet
In other words, whether or not there are posts or tweets, the central resource (your submissions) are available here on this site.
200 euro for 6 hours, no extra payment for editing of photos
All rights lost
Expenses - Not covered
Queen of Scandinavia is a beauty contest scam running in Denmark by Josephine Helbrandt and Peter Hadward.
The business model is to contact young girls they find in model communities and others. Sometimes they will contact girls under the name “Peer Mikkelsen”.
The message will always claim that they have noticed this particular girl and want her to participate in Queen of Scandinavia.
They will claim connections to various inter nation beaty contests.
What they actually want her to do is pay up 40 euros to participate in a casting. They are promised to get 2-4 photos and a goodie bag with a value of 40 euros.
The photos are real, but the goodie bag will never show up.
And here comes the part that relates to photographers:
Usually they will lure photographers into working 6 hours or more for free making various “all profit goes to…” claims. In one case they paid the photographer 200 euros for 6 hours of constant photographing hundreds of girls, no extra payment for post processing photos afterwards.
The girls will actually get the photos(just fast snapshots, no time is spend on each model) through Dropbox, so that part is true at the least.
Speed of payment Up to 3 months
50-200USD per assignment (2014)
Total Loss of Rights
Expenses Not covered
Speed of payment - 1 month